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Offline The Rusty Gear

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Building tips
« on: September 16, 2009, 11:21:07 AM »
Alot of posts I see on this type of forum relate to building or renovating garages. Maybe expand this section to include build tips ie framing plumbing etc? Or am I off the mark as to the intention of this section?

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« on: September 16, 2009, 11:21:07 AM »

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Re: Building tips
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 11:42:11 AM »
Sounds like a good idea to me.

From what I have seen, a lot of people could use basic tips on framing, wiring, etc.

Stick-built vs. metal frame, pole buildings, masonry, etc... The possibilities are endless.

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Re: Building tips
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2009, 01:37:12 PM »
I'm sure everyone who's built a shop/garage has items they regret doing a particular way, or will modify if/when they build the next one.

My "d'oh" of the week is using 14/2 wiring and 15 amp receptacles.  Next time I'll do all 20 amp receptacles.

Guess what I have to do before I can use the lift I just ordered.   ::)

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Re: Building tips
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2009, 05:59:19 PM »
OK I added a building tips board. Is just one ok or should we break it down more?
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Re: Building tips
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2009, 06:19:56 PM »
OK I added a building tips board. Is just one ok or should we break it down more?

I was kind of the thought that "Electrical and Air Conditioning" should be incorporated into a larger "Building Tips" forum ie "Electrical, Plumbing, AC, etc Building tips. - Stuff you need to know to build your shop / garage"

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Re: Building tips
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2009, 10:13:29 PM »
My "d'oh" of the week is using 14/2 wiring and 15 amp receptacles.  :)

Oh, the horror...what were you thinking?

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Re: Building tips
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2009, 11:45:38 PM »
My "d'oh" of the week is using 14/2 wiring and 15 amp receptacles.  :)

Oh, the horror...what were you thinking?

I like the way NM is now color-coded for us blind old SOB's. Orange and yellow makes a happy fellow! Cable in white is nowhere in sight!

I was thinking I was doing okay...but now that I've hung around with you lot for the last couple years that's all changed!

At the time, I wasn't as aware of what and why 20 amp wiring might be desirable, unfortunately.  Now I think I'll be having to replace a 15 amp breaker with the 20, fish some yellow NM down to the panel then feed the old outlets from a junction box and add a few new outlets.

Not really a project I had in mind (pouring front porch, sidewalk and tearing out/replacing back patio are top of the list), but gotta do what I gotta do.  After all, it's the garage!

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Re: Building tips
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2009, 08:06:42 AM »
Best tip of all. 

Always double every specification. It still won't be big enough in three years. But think how bad it would have been otherwise!
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Re: Building tips
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2009, 07:18:14 PM »
A tip if someone is building a garage, they might put their receptacles  at 36" to 48" off the floor. Because if you are like most people every thing you own ends up in front of the plug in. Plus if you are old and lazy like me you don't have to bend over as far.  ;D
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Re: Building tips
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2009, 07:29:15 PM »
A tip if someone is building a garage, they might put their receptacles  at 36" to 48" off the floor. Because if you are like most people every thing you own ends up in front of the plug in. Plus if you are old and lazy like me you don't have to bend over as far.  ;D

> 48" leaves the receptacles above a standard sheet of plywood leaning against the wall.   ;)

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Re: Building tips
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2009, 08:29:18 PM »
I always say at least 56" that way any thing sitting on the sheeting is usually cleared.
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Re: Building tips
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2009, 09:14:09 PM »
A tip if someone is building a garage, they might put their receptacles  at 36" to 48" off the floor. Because if you are like most people every thing you own ends up in front of the plug in. Plus if you are old and lazy like me you don't have to bend over as far.  ;D

If you set them at 48", it is easy to cut in for the receptacles when you drywall and/or sheet the walls later. i.e., when hanging horizontal panels, you can see the boxes and only have to cut them halfway into the upper and lower panels.

I hope that makes sense.

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Re: Building tips
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2009, 12:35:05 AM »
A tip if someone is building a garage, they might put their receptacles  at 36" to 48" off the floor. Because if you are like most people every thing you own ends up in front of the plug in. Plus if you are old and lazy like me you don't have to bend over as far.  ;D

If you set them at 48", it is easy to cut in for the receptacles when you drywall and/or sheet the walls later. i.e., when hanging horizontal panels, you can see the boxes and only have to cut them halfway into the upper and lower panels.

I hope that makes sense.

That only works when the drywall goes right down to the floor.  If you've got any sort of foundation wall, the drywall joint will be more than 48".

But it certainly makes it easier placing them at the seam.

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Re: Building tips
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2009, 12:38:33 AM »
Actually thats why I said 56" it's where mine meet at.

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Re: Building tips
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2009, 08:16:10 AM »
I put all the receptacles in my garage and machine shop at 48"  --  some even higher. I hate bending down behind equipment to plug stuff in/out of a socket.

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Re: Building tips
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2010, 11:13:38 AM »
Unless you are going to have a true attic space, Just use scissor trusses and you gain extra height in the middle of the shop, I didn't catch that when I had mine built and even with 10 foot ceilings I don't have quite enough room for a lift,and I don't even get to use the attic for storage cause the truss braces block everything..lol   :frustrated:
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