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With the off shoring of tools and the treatment of American employees. Who to buy from.

Wright
23 (18.3%)
Stanley
3 (2.4%)
Mac
2 (1.6%)
Craftsman
14 (11.1%)
KD
1 (0.8%)
Matco
4 (3.2%)
Cornwell
7 (5.6%)
Snap-on
14 (11.1%)
Armstrong
8 (6.3%)
Williams
9 (7.1%)
Proto
9 (7.1%)
Allen
1 (0.8%)
Gearwrench
9 (7.1%)
Hazet
1 (0.8%)
Other describe in comment.
6 (4.8%)
SK
15 (11.9%)

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Brands to buy.
« on: February 06, 2010, 02:49:21 PM »
With the recent actions by Tool companies. Who do you think is the best company to buy your tools from.

This is taking warranty, durability, and selection into account. But also considering the companies actions in factory closings and openness of where the tools are actually being made.

There should be four selection/votes available to you.
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Re: Brands to buy.
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2010, 05:55:11 PM »
This was good idea rusty I hope you get good participation.
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2010, 06:53:18 PM »
not as easy as it looks...

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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2010, 06:59:15 PM »
I wish there were at least six choices.
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Re: Brands to buy.
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2010, 07:42:40 PM »
Well i could reset the poll and change the options
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Re: Brands to buy.
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2010, 07:52:17 PM »
I chose Craftsman among my other choices, because even though it's Danaher, I believe it's the best value for the money -- bar none!! That said, I hate Snap-on, Danaher and Stanley -- ALL their associated brands are getting watered down more and more every year. Their business practices leave much to be desired (especially Stanley).

The best value on PREMIUM quality tool brands have to be Wright and Cornwell  -- They don't play the games and marketing tricks that plague the old standard bearers (Snap-on, MAC, and MATCO). When I need premium tools, I call TRTOOLSUPPLY for Wright products.


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Re: Brands to buy.
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2010, 08:04:21 PM »
I gave 4 selections in the poll. But when I took it I only used one. Wright is my only choice for new tools. Cornwell would be on there as well but I don't currently have a Cornwell guy around here.

Some of the newer Craftsman tools. Make me leary on saying the brand. They are case by case now.
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2010, 11:52:35 PM »
I don't buy many new tools so it's kind of moot but since I do buy some I answered Wright, Williams, SO and Cornwell. My purchasing would be pretty much in that order if I could buy Cornwell new. That assumes US manufacture. If I am going to buy import it's HF.

And, yes COO is very important to me.
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Re: Brands to buy.
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2010, 12:20:54 AM »
Craftsman is most easily accessible for me.  I buy Gearwrench but I didn't vote for it.

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Re: Brands to buy.
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2010, 11:39:34 AM »
Making these choices is getting more difficult by the day. I don't buy many new tools either, but you can bet I am scrutinizing for COO when I do.

I will buy an imported tool if it fits my needs, but if the manufacturer has tried to hide the country of origin hoping it will pass for "Made in USA" on brand reputation, I will look elsewhere.

I really like those S•K XXL pattern ratcheting spline wrenches, but until they start stamping them "Taiwan", they won't get my money. I assume this will never happen.

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Re: Brands to buy.
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2010, 12:55:57 PM »
I put Gearwrench in the poll as they are honest about their origins.

SK has the habit any more of hiding where the tool is made. This annoys me to no end.
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2010, 01:49:02 PM »
I put Gearwrench in the poll as they are honest about their origins.

They are honest about their origins, but still don't stamp their tools. In some cases (i.e., pliers), this is in direct violation (or is it defiance) of federal law.

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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2010, 01:53:01 PM »
OK I have never seen their pliers in person. So I guess I'll have to add them to the shady list now.
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Re: Brands to buy.
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2010, 04:25:14 PM »
I put Gearwrench in the poll as they are honest about their origins.

SK has the habit any more of hiding where the tool is made. This annoys me to no end.
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SK has the habit any more of hiding where the tool is made. This annoys me to no end.

what pieces are you talking about rusty? all sk socket, ratchet or a relating drive items along with most pliers and non ratcheting wrenches are stamped usa. my sure grip screwdrivers are marked france and the new trigrips are marked slovenia if i am correct. i know that the xl and xxl pliers, ratcheting wrenches and screwdrivers are imports and are marked on the box and not necessarily the tool themselves. not ideal but surely no worse than any other company.  is there some other change i have missed?
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Re: Brands to buy.
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2010, 04:46:10 PM »
I've seen wrenches with no COO. Also the screwdrivers have been on and off with the COO.

That and their labor dealer relations have really soured me on SK. The recent strike has lost them a segment of their distribution and sales route. Several independent dealers I know will no longer sale SK due to the ongoing distribution problems. Multi month back orders of stock is not a way to run a business.
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« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2010, 05:34:20 PM »
The new tools I've purchased recently were Wright, SO, Armstrong, Proto and William. I'd didn't vote for Proto but only didn't as I ran out of votes. Glad to see Wright in the lead.
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« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2010, 06:12:08 PM »
you won't get any argument on me that there are many things they should be doing differant with regards to returns, dealers and the strike. i think most people forget that their main lines are us made, while specialty wrenches and specialty pliers are imported from asia. most screwdrivers come from europe while some scewdrivers and pry bars are us made. that may change in the future but for now more of their stuff is us made than some of the truck brands imop. i would not count them out completely yet. what type of wrench had no  coo? i would bet money it was a ratcheting wrench in wich you would be hardpressed to find any of them with coo other than a very few wich are us made.
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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2010, 10:01:41 PM »
Well...I chose Wright,because not only do I sell them,I also like the way they do business.  :cat:

To be fair to the other tool companies,Wright doesn't have a lot of specialty pliers,auto type tools.etc.That helps keep the core tool lines they make and sell to stay USA made.

I sell some Armstrong,GW and others because Wright doesn't always have all the tools a customer wants.I'm with Will also.....be honest about the COO.

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« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2010, 11:09:05 PM »
that is odd on the raised panels. every one i have ever seen says usa on the opposite side as the wrench you have posted. i checked all of mine and they all have it. the angle wrenchs i have only seen a time or two and can't say one way or another. my angle wrenches are mac. they say usa on them.
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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2010, 12:00:34 AM »
I'd always seen the SK hard line marked, then these came in.  About half of the shipment they had were unmarked for COO.

It kind of messed with our heads. Since then warranty issues and inability to get tools have caused this store to quit carrying SK. Last time I talked to him he still had a few thousand dollars worth of warranty exchange on back order.
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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2010, 12:56:07 AM »
I'm just guessing here but I think you will see less and less COO markings in general. Partly because it conditions us not to look so when companies move production around it's not as obvious and partly because it's cheaper as they won't have to change the dies and stamps to account for the changes as they make the production dance.

I like SO but I call BS on their claim it's better for international markets where anti US sentiments could hurt sales. If they feel that way F'em and let them buy tools elsewhere. France has their own tools anyway. And I would imagine most countries have some COO marking requirements anyway.
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Re: Brands to buy.
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2010, 11:15:57 AM »
I think that of the choices, I'd go with Wright, Williams, Craftsman, and possibly European brands that have not abandoned their workforce.

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« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2010, 12:32:33 PM »
While I like Williams tools. The fact that they are a division of Snap-on counts against them. Also they are very bad about unmarked COO on their tools since the purchase.
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« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2010, 02:00:11 PM »
i don't want an argument rusty, but i would love to see some pics. i just phoned sk with this question and the raised panel and angle wrenches are us made. the rep said all us made tools are marked as such. we discussed coo and she said that ratcheting wrenches are taiwan. screwdivers are usa, france and slovenia. some torque wrenches are from china. she is sending me a suggested retail price sheet with coo info on it. i can forward you a copy if you wish. we obviously did not cover every item. i just threw a handful of  random wrench numbers at her like the ones you mentioned.  it will be interesting to go down the list.
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« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2010, 02:51:19 PM »
I wish I could. But the store that had them lotted them off when he quit selling them.

If I run across any place around here still selling SK I'll check their stocks. This lot came in about the end of November.  We thought it might have been sabotage by some of the workers. He called SK about it and they gave him the same story. The district guy stopped by and saw them. He had no explanation either.

Our question was how did they get through QC with out markings?
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« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2010, 03:46:51 PM »
how do we know that they were not part of the problem./ that strike got nasty as all strikes do. i do not know the whole story and i hate to say it but i do not care much for unions. i would not put it past the union workers. i think the most damage to sk has been done by the workers and union, not sk as a whole.
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« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2010, 04:43:25 PM »
I have no problem blaming most of America's current industrial problems on Unions and Lawyers.

That is what we were thinking about the sets. The on going labor problems were allowing bad items to come through.

While I hope SK can get it's act together. As long as the channel and manufacturing as as unsteady as they currently are. I can not recommend them.

Currently I believe that their tools have to be taken on a tool by tool basis.

This is a shame since I own many SK tools and have always considered them to be a fine tool.
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« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2010, 06:32:38 PM »
i don't have any issue with your thoughts, i just was curiois on that coo bit.  i received that list this afternoon. i can send it to you if you wish.
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« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2010, 07:07:44 PM »
If you would I would appreciate it.

I think a lot of SK's current problems are workforce related. First there was the strike in Ohio that had messed up quality items appearing in the channel. Then after this strike other items show up. Plus the continuing difficulties in even getting the tools.

I do wish they would get things together.
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« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2010, 09:03:40 PM »
I bought the SK angle wrench set about a year ago and they are marked U.S.A.  I also ordered some impact sockets off their web site in december  all were stamped U.S.A. and I received them within ten days of ordering. So I will still vote for SK and Wright.

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« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2010, 11:09:54 AM »
And now for a Canadian Perspective (So Canadian Craftsman is "NO" out of the gate!)

Wright - Can't be beat for value and quality - And now they have two warehouses in Canada!
Proto - Available in most industrial supply stores here, great stuff.
And Other - GRAY Tools! Made in Canada!  :canadaflag:

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« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2010, 11:13:34 AM »
All three of the brands you list are nice.

I have a few Gray wrenches I've used for years with great effect.
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« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2010, 05:29:28 AM »
My four choices were Cornwell, Snap-on, Williams, and Proto.

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« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2010, 01:21:52 AM »
I'm sitting here laughing.  It's probably a function of being around a long time and having a decent memory.

I remember well one distributor back in the 60s SK exclusively since they opened the doors having to bring in lower cost wrenches and tools to retain volume and keep from pissing customers off cause SK cost went through the roof.  They brought in Bonney.  Odd thing happened when the SK rep came in a couple months later, he made a call and that distributor was eligible for all kinds of rebates and coupons they could issue to good customers.  SK sales continued to drop off in that house.

In the 80s another distributor decided to invest a boatload of cash and take on the Proto line.  Their salesmen pounded the routes carrying Proto, and prices were reasonable, for a while.  They sold a couple trailer loads of Proto, and were a valued house according to the plaques on the wall.  Then Proto decided to screw the goose laying golden eggs, prices went up and tools that the distributor had replaced under warranty didn't meet Proto's standards for warranty replacement to the distributor.  A few months later that house sold off all their Proto product and went back to their core business.  No more tools, too many problems and crap return on invested money.

I think I may have warrantied up to a dozen tools in my life, generally they can't be found after breaking and getting thrown, or they get stolen before they break.  I still have and use the Wright 1/2" socket set I bought in 1963, in a tin box with a plastic hunk of crap interior.  I bought it from an industrial distributor for about 22 1963 dollars, probably over $100- in 2010 dollars, and to my surprise the rubber handle on the ratchet is still good, rotated 90ø on the handle but still in place and still functional. 

I also have the 19?? 3/8 set of ratchet and a handfull of sockets on a shoelace Herb gave me when I left.  They still work too.  One of the sockets did split after only 50 years of service, but I figured it had a right to because I was overpulling on it.

I've broken a lot of tools over they years, some of them damn expensive.  Generally my experience has been smaller manufacturers bust ass to make it right, warranty or not, while large manufacturers don't give a damn.  Evidently the big guys operate on the ITW 80/20 concept.

I don't much like the pricing of truck dealers tools.  I've seen too many of those bastards lined up at the counter at the distributor playing on taking advantage of their customer long before they carried phones and showed up when called.  I've also known a few personally, and have a pretty good handle on how that business functions.

US made really doesn't mean much any more, the government standard for that label is low, and I doubt if anyone is chrome plating in this country any more thanks to EPA.  Union "workers" have screwed themselves.  What we are seeing today in a broad spectrum of manufacturing in the US is near a repeat of the US auto manufacturing business screwing itself in the 60s.  Set the beer down and realize the rest of the world is catching up.  Your US tax dollar has been going off shore to help them build capability since 1980 that I know of.  I've ridden in a Hyundai made in Alabama, and it's a damn good car. far better than many US labels I see.  I know people who only drove GM for 40+ years who now drive Hyundais because they will be damned if they drop a bucket of money into a GM worker's pocket or a retiree from GM either. 
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« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2010, 09:14:10 AM »
+1 Aunt Phil  :clapbouncie:

Like you I have been around for while and have seen the decline of the tool business first hand. Back in the early 70's my shop was serviced by the best truck vendor I have ever seen. He sold MAC and was absolutley fair, consistent and customer oriented. He even warrantied our Vulcan, SK and Craftsman tools - can you imagine a modern vendor doing that. Needless to say we were a MAC shop.

Over the years, the truck model has been corrupted by globalization, corporate mergers, and ever tighter profit margins. This has forced truck vendors and supply houses to cut corners to a point where customer service is relegated mainly to "lip service"; nothing more.

In my opinion, the best tool value in the US is still the Craftsman brand. The hard line tools are still mainly US sourced, and the warranty is vastly superior to that available from a tool truck or industrial supplier. When adjusted for inflation, US made Craftsman tools are cheaper now than at anytime in history.

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« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2010, 11:55:33 AM »
GF just for the hell of it, I plugged $17 1963 into the Inflation Calculator and it came up around $115- in 2009 money.

You can definitely get more bang for the buck today in tools than you could in the 60s.

It also brings to mind that the GOVERNMENT makes the profit on inflation, so the government ain't going to stop inflation regardless what the scumbags running for office claim.  Fortunately, Rusty's strictly enforced policy of staying on topic mandates I stay between the lines here.
Were it not for that policy I'd mention the standard garden tractor battery price in Walfart rose 3 bucks from 1 October to 28 November when the rack was restocked.  Thew value of the dollar is dropping rapidly thanks to the Halfrican residing on Pennsylvania Ave, and the spending habits of the stupid American.

Lately I've taken to laughing at people complaining about work being offshored and undocumented workers on US soil.  The average person is too damn dumb to understand what is happening, and too stupid to be enlightened.  Pissed off may well be the zenith of their understanding ability.  Now all I need do is figure out how to get my free cellphone with 250 minutes a month of air time, and figure out where the government distributes the free cheese.  That's some damn good cheddar that's been stored in limestone caves a number of years, and it can often be bought for 10 bucks a block from the welfare people leaving the distribution center.
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« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2010, 12:55:23 PM »
yummy chedder! I haven't seen any of that for years. I think they sold it off with the other surplus storage items a while back. Our strategic grain reserves are piff poor too.
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« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2010, 02:48:22 PM »
I like Danaher products (stanley, gearwrench, etc )  when the buyer demands a high grade product and sells it at a fair price.
  When a buyer like sears demands a very low price and the accepts whatever crap they get, that creates a problem for me.  I own a few craftsman things.   But to go as far as I have to just to get to sears does  not justify the trip for the crapshoot that may follow.  If I need it absolutely right now, AZ is just around the corner to get mid to low grade shtuff at.

COO  is less important to me than quality.  Give me quality or I'll make my own if I can.  If I can't  make it I'll buy a decent  one no matter who made it.

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« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2010, 03:00:47 PM »
Rusty's strictly enforced policy of staying on topic mandates I stay between the lines here.

OK on this the most off topic spinning board on the net this comment is made?

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« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2010, 01:37:07 AM »
Rusty's strictly enforced policy of staying on topic mandates I stay between the lines here.

OK on this the most off topic spinning board on the net this comment is made?

DAMN RIGHT!  I was checking to see if you were paying attention and checking on your reading comprehension.  They say the first thing to go on an old hippie is attention to detail.  Now that we've established you are on the ball I'll resort to higher levels of testing.

BTW, this may not be the most off topic spinning board on the net.  I think that designation may shift around by the hour.
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Re: Brands to buy.
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2010, 01:52:10 AM »
True on the shifting.

There's not many threads on here that haven't went off topic.
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« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2010, 01:08:28 PM »
True on the shifting.

There's not many threads on here that haven't went off topic.

Maybe you should appoint a Special Moderator/Crossing Guard in charge of topic containment so the board can attract stupid inside the box thinkers and make them feel comfortable.  That seems to be a trend of late.  Perhaps the NEA has fully succeeded in its mission.
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Re: Brands to buy.
« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2011, 02:34:46 PM »
IMO craftsman still maintains the value standard in their core tools, sockets, raised panel wrenches and screwdrivers are still made here. CM screwdrivers are as cheap as $2 each if you buy the huge set. That is almost HF prices. Compare it to snap on at an average of $20 per screwdriver! They (snap on) are better screwdrivers but not 10 times better.

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Re: Brands to buy.
« Reply #44 on: April 01, 2011, 06:01:58 PM »
I have to look at tools a bit differently than others I need super high quality and strength for work.

my brands/ recommendations for tuff use ( IE no weekend seldom use)

SO combo wrenches, sockets, extensions, socket hex drives

Garland Manufacturing mallets

PB Swiss 1/4 bits, screw drivers, hex wrenches and hex drive sockets

Whia electronic screw drivers they are cheap and super quality as soon as wear appears I retire them as I have to use them on alloy/ high polish screws on very expensive equipment

Wera screwdrivers  awesome

Felo screw drivers and pliers  awesome pliers are less cumbersome then the competitor below

Kipinx  cutters ( dikes, lineman, cable cutters,bolt)

Felco cable cutters

Kanon torque wrenches they are industrial quality meant for daily repetitive use and are good for 100% full scale at a divination of 3% most TQ wrenches can not even come close to the same quality at 2-3 time the price

SK ratchets, sockets, extensions, pliers ( old stuff)

Cresent adj wrenches

Proto  wrenches, adj wrenches,  sockets, extensions ( US made)

Kline screw drivers , pliers, bags

Lista tool box

Kennedy tool box

German brands virtually any of them will give you a hard working tool




I tend now to favor more European or top shelf Japanese tools now over a lot of  US labels now since most have cut quality, gone overseas or are just outrageously over priced with zero performance for the requested money 

 

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Re: Brands to buy.
« Reply #45 on: April 30, 2011, 12:40:12 AM »
I haven't bought many new tools lately. That being said, I bought a set of Sunex MM stubby combos a couple weeks ago. Couldn't find a COO on them, so I bought a set of US made Williams. I also just purchased a set of Bahco 3/8" sockets in SAE, with shallow, deep, ratchet, and extensions. Those are just rebadged Williams and made in the US......for now. Most of my tools purchases are now made in pawn shops.

I will generally buy just about any SK, Snap on, Mac, Matco, Williams, Proto, Cornwell, Wright, or any of the older defunct US brands out there, if they are US made. I'm glad SK is back and in the marketplace again. I hope they do well.

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Re: Brands to buy.
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2011, 10:27:15 AM »
Since having to replace all my tools after chiming in on this post, would like to say the WILDE tools offer a HUGE value in a USA made tool.
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Re: Brands to buy.
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2011, 11:49:21 AM »
Wildes are very nice tools.
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